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	<title>Comments on: Do more Rails!</title>
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	<description>letting the problem solve itself</description>
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		<title>By: Douglas</title>
		<link>http://www.lixo.org/archives/2005/03/23/do-more-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 May 2005 15:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi CV,</p>
<p>Any news about Rails development? You and Obie havenīt blogged about it anymore&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Carlos Villela</title>
		<link>http://www.lixo.org/archives/2005/03/23/do-more-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-51</link>
		<dc:creator>Carlos Villela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not quite sure what you mean by architectural issues, given that there&#039;s only a few ways you can really go about architecting a Ruby On Rails app - you&#039;ve got ERB views, ActionPack controllers, possibly ActiveRecord models and object-relational mapping. Add Action Mailer, ActionWeb Services or whatever else comes with it into the mix as needed, and you&#039;re done - no need to spend time messing around mixing and matching all frameworks (like you usually do when doing Java stuff - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jroller.com/page/obie/20050324&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;see Obie&#039;s post about it&lt;/a&gt;).

Testing isn&#039;t much of a problem, really - Rails even generates stubs for both the functional and unit tests. It&#039;s a bit weird, though, that the unit tests depend on the database, but I still need to look into that (so I can be horribly wrong here) :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not quite sure what you mean by architectural issues, given that there&#8217;s only a few ways you can really go about architecting a Ruby On Rails app &#8211; you&#8217;ve got ERB views, ActionPack controllers, possibly ActiveRecord models and object-relational mapping. Add Action Mailer, ActionWeb Services or whatever else comes with it into the mix as needed, and you&#8217;re done &#8211; no need to spend time messing around mixing and matching all frameworks (like you usually do when doing Java stuff &#8211; <a href="http://www.jroller.com/page/obie/20050324" rel="nofollow">see Obie&#8217;s post about it</a>).</p>
<p>Testing isn&#8217;t much of a problem, really &#8211; Rails even generates stubs for both the functional and unit tests. It&#8217;s a bit weird, though, that the unit tests depend on the database, but I still need to look into that (so I can be horribly wrong here) <img src='http://www.lixo.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: john brookes</title>
		<link>http://www.lixo.org/archives/2005/03/23/do-more-rails/comment-page-1/#comment-50</link>
		<dc:creator>john brookes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Carlos,
I want to know if you think Ruby can handle all the architecture issues that a lightweight container like Spring takes care of? With Spring, the IOC configuration-based architecture supplies benefits of clarity, confoguration, and testing. You can have Spring mvc, ibatis db OR, Velocity/JSP, POJO biz objects all running in one framework and not dependent on it.
Can Ruby somehow leapfrog these concerns, power through them with code? 
John B</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Carlos,<br />
I want to know if you think Ruby can handle all the architecture issues that a lightweight container like Spring takes care of? With Spring, the IOC configuration-based architecture supplies benefits of clarity, confoguration, and testing. You can have Spring mvc, ibatis db OR, Velocity/JSP, POJO biz objects all running in one framework and not dependent on it.<br />
Can Ruby somehow leapfrog these concerns, power through them with code?<br />
John B</p>
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