Comments on: On Ruby, Refactoring and Lean Manufacturing http://www.lixo.org/archives/2005/12/12/on-ruby-refactoring-and-lean-manufacturing/ letting the problem solve itself Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:42:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Tetsuo http://www.lixo.org/archives/2005/12/12/on-ruby-refactoring-and-lean-manufacturing/#comment-189 Tetsuo Fri, 13 Jan 2006 13:14:34 +0000 http://www.lixo.org/archives/2005/12/12/on-ruby-refactoring-and-lean-manufacturing/#comment-189 Maybe because it's harder to do refactoring tools for dynamic typed languages, compared to static typed ones? http://c2.com/cgi-bin/wiki?DynamicTypesEaseRefactoring Maybe because it’s harder to do refactoring tools for dynamic typed languages, compared to static typed ones?

http://c2.com/cgi-bin/wiki?DynamicTypesEaseRefactoring

]]> By: ade http://www.lixo.org/archives/2005/12/12/on-ruby-refactoring-and-lean-manufacturing/#comment-169 ade Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:07:23 +0000 http://www.lixo.org/archives/2005/12/12/on-ruby-refactoring-and-lean-manufacturing/#comment-169 Carlos, Some of us have had refactoring support in Python for years. Take a look at: http://bicyclerepair.sourceforge.net/ Admittedly there hasn't been a release for some time but I and many people in python land have easy access to: extract method, extract function, extract local variable, inline local variable. BRM does support other refactorings but those 4 are the ones I hooked up to my current favourite python text editor: Pype ( http://pype.sourceforge.net/ ). There's also a pretty decent refactoring browser available for Ruby: http://www.kmc.gr.jp/proj/rrb/index-en.html I think the really interesting question is why there's so little interest in improving the existing refactoring tools for languages like Python and Ruby. Why is it no-one seems interested in doing the hard work of putting together a development environment as polished as Intellij? People are too busy following the herd and building yet another web application framework rather than taking on a research-level challenge like refactoring. --ade Carlos,
Some of us have had refactoring support in Python for years. Take a look at: http://bicyclerepair.sourceforge.net/
Admittedly there hasn’t been a release for some time but I and many people in python land have easy access to: extract method, extract function, extract local variable, inline local variable. BRM does support other refactorings but those 4 are the ones I hooked up to my current favourite python text editor: Pype ( http://pype.sourceforge.net/ ).

There’s also a pretty decent refactoring browser available for Ruby: http://www.kmc.gr.jp/proj/rrb/index-en.html

I think the really interesting question is why there’s so little interest in improving the existing refactoring tools for languages like Python and Ruby. Why is it no-one seems interested in doing the hard work of putting together a development environment as polished as Intellij? People are too busy following the herd and building yet another web application framework rather than taking on a research-level challenge like refactoring.

–ade

]]> By: Tiago Silveira http://www.lixo.org/archives/2005/12/12/on-ruby-refactoring-and-lean-manufacturing/#comment-168 Tiago Silveira Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:19:04 +0000 http://www.lixo.org/archives/2005/12/12/on-ruby-refactoring-and-lean-manufacturing/#comment-168 Hi, I think you'll have fun reading this: http://www.slowleadership.org/2005/12/hurry-up-and-wait.html I think waiting is the biggest waste in software development. And worse, time and brainpower are not saved: they are consumed in unproductive, sometimes unimportant tasks. Hi, I think you’ll have fun reading this:

http://www.slowleadership.org/2005/12/hurry-up-and-wait.html

I think waiting is the biggest waste in software development. And worse, time and brainpower are not saved: they are consumed in unproductive, sometimes unimportant tasks.

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